We invited a friend of the show to join us under the covers this week. Snuggle up with us and lets chat about our frumpy King, introduce some new segments, and drop some hot takes
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Dominic Colangelo: He knows it doesn't matter what's under a hood. The only thing that matters is who's behind the wheel. Shame on you. Shame on you. Get fooled, we can't get fooled again. When I'm washing it, I don't stick to this. But again, with the driver right now, the driver sucks. I tried to activate my glutes the best I could. The support thing, make sure you fade it. Hello and welcome back to Under the Covers, a golf podcast where we deep dive each week in the latest PGA Tour winners bag. We are your hosts. My name is Dominic and I'm joined by Kevin.
Kevin Spisak: Thank you Dominic, I'm excited that we've got the TGL finals while we're recording.
Dominic Colangelo: Absolutely, Matt's favorite. And speaking of, we have Matt with us.
Matthew Zampello: Hey Dom, thanks for having me your program. ⁓ Unfortunately, per Garrett from Good Yoods last post, they're infiltrating my home golf course. I'm very upset about
Dominic Colangelo: So we actually have a very one for you today. ⁓ Under the Covers officially has its guest. He hails from St. Louis, Missouri, North County, what's up? He started his career as a young entrepreneur, franchising and learning the ins and outs of running a business. His business acumen and sales skills have been growing, but just like us, his love for golf and entrepreneurial spirit reigns supreme, so he created a side hustle. wheeling and dealing golf clubs out of his car like Uncle Rico and his luxury Tupperware. That grind earned him the nickname, the Arms Dealer. And since he's partnered with Kyle Walton, playing a key role in building the Gimmie Golf Club to what it is today. Welcome to the show, Kenny Riley.
Kenny Reilly: Gentlemen, it is an absolute pleasure to join you on this program as Matt said that earlier, but now I've heard a lot about what you guys got going on here under the covers and I am excited to chop it up with you guys.
Dominic Colangelo: Yeah, man, thanks for joining. We're excited. Yeah, so I guess the first question we can ask is just give the people a quick rundown of what the Gimme Golf Club is. We've done a few tidbits here and there, but we want to hear from the source.
Kenny Reilly: ⁓ course. Yeah, the Gimme Club is a super special place located in St. Louis, Missouri. We have one location in St. Charles, just a couple blocks up from the historical Main Street. And our newest location ⁓ in the South House is in Fenton, Missouri. But in essence, Gimme is a family. ⁓ We have just under 600 members over those two locations and spread out over 18. public golf courses here in the St. Louis metro area, where all of the almost 600 members have unlimited access to those courses. A community, it basically started off with a digital community that now has a few physical locations and it is the ⁓ number one spot that if you are a golf sicko, welcome home.
Dominic Colangelo: Heck yeah, that was awesome. I didn't realize you're at up to 18 courses now.
Kenny Reilly: Yeah, we had two extras this year and it's I got to play the falls this afternoon and the place is just dialed. Got to talk to the head office there, make sure everything's good. They've already said that gimme is come full force and everybody is fantastic. Then they're excited for a good season.
Dominic Colangelo: beautiful. Yeah, Kevin, Kevin graciously invited me to the clubhouse and I felt like a kid in a candy store. I was just like, this is what the golf world needs, especially Minnesota. It's itching to have one up here, but yeah, it's it's awesome what y'all done with the place.
Kevin Spisak: .
Kenny Reilly: No, I appreciate that.
Matthew Zampello: The first time I met Kevin and he explained what the Gimmie Golf Club is, I was like, man, if Dallas had that, it would be the most popular thing in Dallas. People would join it left, right and center. You'd have thousands and thousands of members. Dallas is screaming for something like
Kenny Reilly: Yeah, Dallas is a crazy market. ⁓ Obviously a little different than up north where Dom is, but you know, it's kind of that interesting back and forth of like how long your golf season is, what the true want is there for the community. And you see it now ⁓ with a lot of these simulator spots popping up and you know, lot of these people are, know, family members or outside ⁓ influences are always like, are you
Kevin Spisak: So,
Kenny Reilly: concerned about the rise in these technology-based places. ⁓ the team and I always say, no, ⁓ we welcome it. It's to the point where if more people are swinging golf clubs, then that means that those are all potential members that we would have never touched anyway. ⁓ But the biggest thing is that the Gimmie Golf Club is a club. It is not a sim spot. We have simulators, but we give them away like candy. What we ⁓ try to do is establish a community and a healthy culture for the golfer, whether you're new, you're seasoned, where you've been playing the last 20 years, or if you're a single mom and thought it looked fun, then come one, come all. Gimmie's the place.
Dominic Colangelo: Heck yeah.
Kevin Spisak: Was that a recruitment pitch for single moms?
Kenny Reilly: Hey, mean, well, I don't know if you were there, but that one, do this potluck, which is a weekly skins game. And this, this lady and her son, she was like, well, I don't have any golf clubs. And we're like, we have golf clubs for you. And she's like, well, I don't really know how to play. we're like, yeah, you should play with us for sure. And she did, she did. She hung around for a couple of holes and ⁓ it was awesome. It was totally outside of her norm, our norm, but it was a pretty, a pretty awesome little spectacle right there for sure.
Dominic Colangelo: Neither do we. That's a fun story, everyone only. The beautiful tagline. I also wanted to shout out, they have an awesome YouTube channel, Gimme Golf Club, and they have some really cool videos. Kyle has been incredible with the video and pictures, and those bandin trips are awesome. I'm curious if you and Matt can swap some war stories. And then also their merch. Kenny's got a hoodie on right now, and then I have the arms dealer.
Kenny Reilly: That's right.
Dominic Colangelo: Literally Kenny's on my back right now. It's incredible.
Kenny Reilly: Yeah you do. Yes, I love that.
Matthew Zampello: That's good stuff.
Kevin Spisak: I've got my 8.1 t-shirt on. The saddest place in the gimme golf club is 8.1 feet away from the hole. 8.1 is way too common. It happens way more often than 7.9. For anyone who doesn't know, the reference that is an automatic one putt versus a two putt.
Dominic Colangelo: ⁓
Kenny Reilly: Yeah.
Dominic Colangelo: That's a, I love that.
Kenny Reilly: Yeah.
Matthew Zampello: Ugh.
Kenny Reilly: The cartoon golf world is crazy, but yes, it is brutal. It is brutal. The most disgusting department of the Gimme Golf Club is the 8.1 club for sure.
Dominic Colangelo: Cartoon Golf World, that's good. Yeah, and for people who don't know, because you know, we are international now. We have a couple German listeners, so, Guten Tag, I don't think that's right. ⁓ so, in their clubhouse, in their clubhouse, they have three simulators. They have a barber connected to the loopers, awesome bar. ⁓ But in the back, whenever they do their skins tournament,
Kenny Reilly: Yes, you.
Kevin Spisak: Ha
Matthew Zampello: I think that was
Dominic Colangelo: They keep it putting green, eight foot gimmies. If you're inside the eight foot circle, you gotta earn it. And I think that's one of the cooler things that I've seen an indoor league do.
Matthew Zampello: It's like TGL before TGL, but better.
Kevin Spisak: Yeah. Thank
Dominic Colangelo: Exactly way cooler than TGO.
Kenny Reilly: Some would say that to be true, Matt. You're absolutely right. what's wild is that the skin's nights can be anywhere from 20 to 60 people. ⁓ when someone does have a skin's putt, Matt, this is the rule. The person putting for their skin is the only one allowed on the putting green. And no matter who's in the room, you can say and do whatever you want while they putt. Whether you want them to make it to cut a skin or whether you want them to miss it so you can save your skin, it's an absolute riot in the gimmick.
Matthew Zampello: Man, that's good stuff.
Dominic Colangelo: I didn't know that, that's cool. Yeah, you gotta check out their Instagram, on their stories, always post them. So, I think... ⁓
Kevin Spisak: Yeah, you could you probably slide in a little clip of one of my eagle putts I made my first ever putt attempt with my PLD was was a fur a skin it paid for itself in one ⁓ one stroke.
Kenny Reilly: That's right.
Dominic Colangelo: go and then and then we even talked about the putting competition from the from the lion's share their member guest that was electric
Matthew Zampello: still TBDF Dom was anchoring, but I'm still investigating that.
Dominic Colangelo: Check the tapes.
Kevin Spisak: Ha ha ha.
Matthew Zampello: I Dom to take his shirt off with Akshay side by side and do an anchoring test and see who's actually angry.
Dominic Colangelo: I don't know if anyone wants to see that.
Kevin Spisak: Okay.
Kenny Reilly: There's a few people out in Germany and Switzerland and I'm sure they do.
Kevin Spisak: So,
Dominic Colangelo: I think you're right there, I think you're right. with Kenny on as our first guest, I think we want to introduce a new segment with ⁓ everyone that comes the podcast. ⁓ And that is under the covers for our guest. ⁓ So Kenny, ⁓ are you rocking on the driver these days? ⁓
Kenny Reilly: Well, the driver is a Wilson DynaPower Carbon. This is a 2023 model, ⁓ nine degree. ⁓ It's right off the rack, but I do have this, there's a gentleman out in Michigan who hand rolls driver shafts and is incredible and very unique. And I went through the whole system. I didn't tell him anything about who we were or what was going on. Went back and forth for a few weeks and what he's got as far as his product is pretty darn special. ⁓ I really enjoyed the whole process, how kind of nitty-gritty he got with wanting to see more data and feel about feedback. It's kind of the same way I do with the customers we have and the members here at the club. But ⁓ yeah, really, really excited about the whole process and it's working out really well.
Dominic Colangelo: What do mean hand rolled?
Kenny Reilly: So how graphite works is basically ⁓ there's different angles of the material that you can angle at certain ways for certain kick point and basically torque rating. And there's just very specifics on what angles and how you layer them, more material versus less material to kind of reach the desired specification of each player. So he takes it to the nth degree and kind of You know, he's got his total weight of material and how he layers it and how he weights it. And he knocked it out of the park for me for sure.
Dominic Colangelo: That's crazy. So ⁓ I wanted to touch on too is you ⁓ Matt Fitzpatrick have something in common. You're both... ⁓ You're both equipment-free agents, which is massive news. ⁓ what was your driving force on choosing this Wilson Dyna Power?
Kevin Spisak: Yeah.
Matthew Zampello: wearing sketchers. you
Kenny Reilly: Well, kind of an interesting thought there is, yeah, I mean, the amount of gear that we get in ⁓ for the members and for the inventory that we hold, I hit everything at least once. And the Wilson came in, I think it was a...
Kevin Spisak: you
Kenny Reilly: I think we brought it in when they came out and I was just, I commented, I was probably the straightest driver that I've ever hit. ⁓ Hit fairways blindfolded and I was like, that's pretty neat. So I think I gamed it and then was kind of trying to reach for, kind of maximizing if then any distance out there. But I don't hit the ball a long way, but I will say this is that ⁓ I'm surprised if I don't hit a fairway with that thing. to be real against all the brands, even the newer models, ⁓ Nuthin's kicked the king out of the throne. And yeah, it's staying. It's good. I love it. ⁓ So Nuthin's really challenged it. ⁓ Of course, I always try to scare it back out of the bag, but ⁓ it's got a pretty solid spot right there.
Kevin Spisak: What was that driver you were testing out a couple weeks ago? Weren't you playing with Calloway?
Kenny Reilly: Yeah, so that was an interesting one. Messing with the length of the driver shaft. This one is a 2016 Zone Callaway Great Big Birth of Fusion, which is the big triangle looking thing and I loved it. It's just a little goofy. Measures at like 44 and a quarter. Super awkward to look down at the ball at, but low spin, easy to hit.
Dominic Colangelo: Hoo hoo hoo!
Kenny Reilly: It's got it's literally so a buddy of mine owns a golf shop out in just outside of Tennessee and I was like, hey, you know, I've always loved this. I saw that you had that How much you want for it? And he was like, well, it's in plastic and I go From 2016 you still have it in plastic. So my guess is that no one's been after this thing What do you want for it? And he was like, well, you know, maybe like 250 bucks and I was like I got a hundred dollars for you and I will take right now he's like
Kevin Spisak: Ha ha ha ha ha.
Kenny Reilly: Yeah, that'll work, that'll work. So it's straight off the rack. It's got a super light 45 gram regular flex, but to me it's the everything. If I can get faster with a club and still launch it high enough and not just spin it off the planet, it's always fun to at least try that, but again, it's kind of a missing both ways situation. ⁓ And then Kevin, yeah, it's been great inside.
Kevin Spisak: Yeah. Yeah.
Kenny Reilly: Outside it's a little bit more volatile, so both left and right, so that was kind of an immediate like, that's gonna take a back seat until we configure it. But the shorter driver length was definitely an interesting ⁓ experiment.
Kevin Spisak: Nice. Yeah, I was pretty fascinated the first time I ever learned that most tour players play shorter drivers than what's stock off the shelf. You know, the premium of hitting the center of the face is way more important than that extra mile per hour on, you know, swing speed.
Kenny Reilly: Yeah. And it's, all, you know, determining on length, you know, the longer the club, the faster one can swing it. So sure ball speed and everything will go up, but you know, if you're, hitting a high hook in the Sherry's backyard, she's going to be pissed, man. So you might as well, you know, make sure that you get into the fairway and then make sure you hit it from the short stuff for sure.
Dominic Colangelo: Hahahaha
Kevin Spisak: Nice.
Dominic Colangelo: ⁓ So you've tested a bunch of driver heads before we get into your woods, but did you test out different degrees of driver? We were talking about that last week a little bit. I'm curious if you kind of went higher or lower and you landed on nine.
Kenny Reilly: Yeah, I'm a huge fan of like the, if we can take more loft and not have any negative repercussion on that. I love the idea of players who can swing it fast or fast enough to play a 10 and a half up or even a 12 down. Like to me, if we're in this world of like low spin, ⁓ if we can get a good launch number out of there, that ball's just gonna carry forever. you know, very few players require the 8 degree tour, you know, it's probably 1 out of 25 that really like can quantify that like, yeah, I need an 8 degree head crank down. I'm like, no, you don't. No, you don't. Yeah. Yeah. Are you sure? Are you sure about that? But it's, I always love testing that. I do a pretty interesting thing if someone's coming in for a
Dominic Colangelo: Do you?
Kenny Reilly: And no nonsense, just tell me what the date is. I'll tape off shafts and lofts and even brands at a certain point if someone's a die-hard brand loyalist. ⁓ And I just say hit it and just swing it to see what happens. And it doesn't always work out there, but there's a couple of Cinderella stories there that someone's like, my god, my god, a 12 degree driver, are you kidding me? I'm like, well, we at least have something to go on.
Dominic Colangelo: Right. So tell us about your woods. Do you rock a three wood and then step down or you have a three five? What
Kevin Spisak: So, I'm going to a couple of
Kenny Reilly: So I have a four, seven combination. ⁓ know, three wood to me is kind of like the Achilles heel of most amateur golfers. It's just second longest club in the bag. ⁓ Pretty tough to hit consistently. So a knockup in loft, it's 16 and a half. And it's probably one of my favorite ⁓ clubs in the bag. It's an AeroBurner TP ⁓ from the tour truck and it is just the the hottest face I've ever felt on a fairway wood. It's used, it's beat up, but it's it's a gem. ⁓ We opened up an account with Sax Parenti, the Newton Golf Shafts, ⁓ probably about a year and a half ago. Was super interested on a high torque setting, especially for someone who doesn't have a ton of speed, something that has a little bit faster closure rate and a little higher torque rating. And again, it's something that I can kind of... ⁓ I like to play a draw with most of my clubs. This thing is like an everyday all day fade and kind of gives a little bit of an unlocking situation there from a fairway light. Rarely use it off the tee because I only hit the driver about 230 yards anyway. So who are we kidding? I'll just blast that thing out there. ⁓ But it's a super fun club. ⁓ I don't think I'll ever get rid of that one either, especially that place in the bag. If you find something you like, you just
Kevin Spisak: Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha.
Kenny Reilly: Don't, you don't move it for sure.
Matthew Zampello: Right. Man, when we started this podcast, I didn't think I'd ever mentioned an arrow burner three wood, but here we are, man. That's a sick golf.
Kenny Reilly: Oh, dude, yes. A little deep cut right there for you, Absolutely.
Dominic Colangelo: Hahahaha!
Matthew Zampello: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Dominic Colangelo: Kevin, have you tried any of the Newton shafts yet?
Kevin Spisak: No, Kenny's told me about them in the past and I see an ad for it every time I go on the interwebs, ⁓ but no, I've never tried one. They look cool. The high torque kind of scares me though. I don't know that I've got the timing and rhythm like Kenny does to be able to make that work for me.
Kenny Reilly: Kev hits it far, man. He doesn't need any help, man. No way.
Dominic Colangelo: You right? ⁓
Kevin Spisak: Well, these long drive guys, don't they play like seven degree torque drivers like.
Kenny Reilly: I didn't say that you were that fast. And so, you know, you're kind of in the middle, you know.
Matthew Zampello: Mm-hmm.
Dominic Colangelo: Yeah, chill out Kevin, come on.
Kevin Spisak: Well, I know, but you would you would think that there'd be like something like some level of torque that like could work, but it just it scares me.
Kenny Reilly: But you gotta realize it's like that they're like Fulton Reed. Three out of five is like, you know, good, but the other two are like in the parking lot kind of situations or don't even get off the ground. So it's not worth the, it's not worth the crazy difference there.
Kevin Spisak: That's true.
Matthew Zampello: Foul ball.
Kevin Spisak: That's true. Yeah. ⁓ I had bought a shaft on eBay one time that this thing probably had to be like four or five degrees of torque. And it was like, if, I swung out of my shoes, giant, just like either banana ball slice or the biggest hook you've ever seen. And it was like, and then if I, if I didn't really go after it, then I could hit it straight, but I, but I'd pop in a different shaft. and then my swing would be just all jacked up from even toying with this like eBay piece of shit. So, get fitted.
Dominic Colangelo: Wow.
Kenny Reilly: Yeah, it's a risky road there too. You can't spend too much time on something that you're experimenting with, which is why I like to have them put it in play. I hate driving ranges. We can get on that later. I do not believe in them. ⁓ I think that you dial in on these targets that don't exist and you think that you're the pro on the driving range, but when it really matters, you're like, yeah, I missed that one pretty good there.
Dominic Colangelo: You
Kenny Reilly: My thing is like this is if you're going to put it in play, you're not going to be as crazy wild as you would be on the range. And you're going to get a true reading on if that even agrees with you in the slightest sense for sure.
Kevin Spisak: Yeah, that makes sense. So tell us about your Sevenwood. As far as I know, you're the biggest advocate of Sevenwoods that has ever existed.
Kenny Reilly: Dom, I think I still have one ⁓ for you, but I don't know. It's got your name on it, but it says, yeah, we haven't talked to him in a while, but let me know if I can put that back on the shelf or not, you know?
Dominic Colangelo: I knew that was coming. Yeah, you're a sweetheart for letting me borrow it listeners if you need some help ask Kenny for literally anything He's so generous. He let me borrow it for a month and it's just it's just so it's such a stiff shaft It just wasn't working. It was spraying everywhere. So I had to I do respectfully decline
Kenny Reilly: ⁓ and I actually love it. It gives us another opportunity to try something with that experience that you can kind of maybe we'll put one of those ⁓ long driveshafts in there, you know, and then get a little bit more whip in there, you know.
Dominic Colangelo: I'm game. I'm gonna try to stack like Matt.
Kevin Spisak: ⁓ yeah. That. Damn, what was your.
Matthew Zampello: Yeah.
Kenny Reilly: Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. You're already fast enough. Don't do that.
Matthew Zampello: Limb by the stack.
Kenny Reilly: I mean, it's a great system. It's just a tough system for most people. ⁓ I would say this is kind of a hot take here. I think that the last thing that an amateur golfer needs is more speed. ⁓ I would rather them have tempo than speed any day of week. We just don't play golf courses that are that long. I don't know. I I just don't see the mileage there. But again, it's cool to hit it far, I guess, in some way, shape or form.
Dominic Colangelo: That's a good point. I respect that. You
Kevin Spisak: Yeah, Dom, what was your driver ball speed when you went on the track man like a week a week or two ago? Didn't you get up to like 169 or so?
Dominic Colangelo: I I actually, I think I did hit 170. It was 171, but it was just barely and it was only once. It was one of those like, it was so perfect and then everything else was 167, 168 and below. But yeah, that one ruined me because the next time it went to the simulator, was swinging way too hard and then I played my first.
Kevin Spisak: ⁓ did you? That's sick.
Dominic Colangelo: real round yesterday when it was 36 degrees out. That was a horrible idea. But it, I was so cold that I was forced to swing slower and it got me back into swing of things.
Matthew Zampello: will hit one any ball speed one time this year that's my that's my one goal ⁓ I'm close no I'm close I've sniffed the high 170s
Dominic Colangelo: think you got it. I think you can do it.
Kevin Spisak: 180 is outrageous.
Kenny Reilly: That's wild to me. is, you guys are the pros. I can look up your guys' stats for sure.
Dominic Colangelo: Matt, Matt's a competitor, so he played in college a little bit, and then what's your handicap at now, Matt?
Matthew Zampello: I travel at a plus two, but I'm going into member guest season down here in Texas, and unfortunately I have to play at a plus 3.5 for the next member guest I'm at. So I already told my member I said, I hope you're in it for the fun, because we're not winning.
Dominic Colangelo: yuck.
Kevin Spisak: Ha ha.
Kenny Reilly: I gotta give strokes back to the golf course. That's wild. No, that's awesome.
Dominic Colangelo: That's gnarly. So ⁓ give us these specs on the 7 one you got.
Kenny Reilly: Sevenwood, ⁓ it's a gem. It's an Epic Max, the original Epic lineup. It's a Heavenwood, so figuration there is a 20 degree head with a three wood length shaft. It's a Fujikura Matori 7S. Goes up, touches the moon, lands soft like ⁓ the best four iron I never could hit like that ever. And yeah, dude, it is... Again, seasoned and does not have a chance of leaving the bag, but kind of my go-to on any long par three or any like, you like you said, something that you just need to hit the green and stop and not have a chance to de-green off the back. And ⁓ it is, it's kind of like a doubles as like a, ⁓ I use it to putt with a ton and it's just, I get a ton of looks, but ⁓ it's one of the most comfortable clubs in my bag for sure.
Dominic Colangelo: oooo That's cool.
Kevin Spisak: That's awesome. Of all the dumb marketing names that Callaway has had, the Heavenwood is actually a cool one.
Matthew Zampello: Heaven Heavenwood is a sick name.
Kenny Reilly: ⁓ dude, yeah, and it sure, it reaches the heavens, hangs up there for four or five seconds, starts its way back down, and it's a beautiful.
Dominic Colangelo: That's.
Matthew Zampello: They haven't gone for that yet. Yeah, they think.
Dominic Colangelo: Yeah, I'll say that's when it went downhill. That was their peak, was Heavenwood.
Kenny Reilly: Yeah.
Kevin Spisak: Yeah. All Well, let's go into your irons. ⁓ What are playing there Kenny?
Kenny Reilly: Irons, running joke is it's kind of like this revolving door, but these are a set that we had built for a member who was trying to explore the graphite shaft realm. I will wholeheartedly say that I talked a lot of trash on these iron shafts for a long time, but I am playing a combo set of the Strixon ZXI 5 and 7s. and they are shafted with the ⁓ Fujikura Axiom 125X. And they're half inch long, degree and a half upright. Built this set. It was a ⁓ toe-to-toe match. We ended up putting them in the Z-forged II with Dynamic Gold X7. So kind of trying to flirt with that, but at that speed and that flex, the graphite was just launching too high and too spinny.
Kevin Spisak: Ha ha.
Kenny Reilly: And of course, I had to give them a swing. But with these Strixons, they're a lower spinning head in general. ⁓ And to me, this is the exact opposite of any build sheet that I would do for myself. But actually launching them super well, spin is kind of mitigated. I mean, they're awesome. ⁓
Dominic Colangelo: Hahaha
Kenny Reilly: And, you know, I just never got over the fact that they want what they want for each one of those iron shafts. It was a really tough build for anybody that didn't really realize what they were asking for. And, you know, to quote someone, you know, $120 a shaft, I'm just like, I feel gross. I don't know how you feel, but I don't know if we want to go do this. There's a couple of options that we can do about a third of the price. But we built them. They're great. Big shout out to Barry Martin and Cody Collier.
Kevin Spisak: .
Dominic Colangelo: Yeah.
Kenny Reilly: putting those things together, they are awesome. Played them all through the winter, played them through the tail end of last season, and yeah, I mean, they're beautiful, beautiful stuff.
Kevin Spisak: Yeah, I was pretty excited when I saw them in your bag I thought I saw the Axiom logo when you were when you were swinging and I had to come over and pull one out just to verify that's second
Kenny Reilly: And then you're like, oh, wait, 125X? And I'm like, yeah, I don't even know. It's not me, imposter syndrome for sure, but you know, sometimes it's wild like that. It just kind of works out. So I'm here for it. My thought is like, man, you'll get a kick out of this. I just feel like I can't even load the shaft. So I just like literally catch it on the up because it doesn't move anyway. So like launch is great. You know what I mean? No worries.
Kevin Spisak: this. Those are sick.
Matthew Zampello: Last week I told Dom, you want to feel like what the X7 feel like go get that flagpole out of that middle school and you swing that thing.
Kenny Reilly: ⁓ that was a crazy build and he loves them with the X7s. I was just like, okay, all right, all right. Insane.
Kevin Spisak: Okay.
Matthew Zampello: When they're too stiff, they don't flex, but yeah.
Dominic Colangelo: Let's try it out. So I keep chuckling. You're taking the free agent manufacturer to the bank because you have another manufacturer for your wedges.
Kenny Reilly: Yeah. Wedges are weird with me. I'm usually like a diehard Cleveland guy. ⁓ Really, really enjoyed, you know, obviously Roger Cleveland and then his move to Callaway. And then I think he's kind of in flux right now, but I was a huge fan of the RTX line. ⁓ The RTZ has been fantastic. But I got my hands on ⁓ the new line of Pings, the S259s. And ⁓ I'm kind of a weirdo. hate taking things out of the plastic. just, I don't, it's like laying a bike down for the first, I just can't do it. So give me something that's already been wrecked and I'll play it from there. But ⁓ one of our members is the ping rep in town and ⁓ kind of ⁓ asked to see what they looked like. And the S159s are pretty darn ⁓ good. ⁓ really, really happy with the bounces and the grinds. They're easy to understand what you need and what you don't. And then not to get too far ahead of that, out of nowhere, left field, the gap wedge in the set is actually a 923 Mizuno JPX Tour ⁓ with an Axiom 120 stiff. Again, weird, it's a 110 yard club. It just does what it's supposed to and that's the reason.
Kevin Spisak: Ha ha ha.
Matthew Zampello: It goes under 10 yards. Solves the gap. Do you feel ping wedges are easier to understand balance and grind wise than vocies?
Kenny Reilly: It's exactly what I just I know it does. You know, they're all kind of, it's kind of like the Titleist adapter chart. You you've used the same one for 12 years, but you still gotta reference it to know what A3 is versus B3. ⁓ I think Ping, it's just like, you know, they've expanded ⁓ a little bit on their grinds, but it's pretty much point and shoot. You know, you got your standard grind is your S. They've introduced some B grind, H grind, but.
Matthew Zampello: Yeah.
Kenny Reilly: Really, it's, you know, if you like to hit a square shot, you're gonna be S. If you're not opening up a face, you're good there. If you are someone who likes to manipulate the club face, you can kind of deep dive into the 58s and the 60s with a B or an H, and all that is is basically a D grind or an M grind for like a vokey, so some heel relief, some toe relief, and something that's just gonna be a little bit more beveled on that bottom, that trailing edge. But me? No, that scares me to death to open up something like that. So square face for life, man. it's, you know, they've worked out well. I think they spin pretty darn well. I think that this was a big move for Ping. The glide wedges were like awful, like awful. Like no one liked him. Even if you had him, you didn't like him and you just were like, yeah, I'm waiting for the new ones. But the...
Matthew Zampello: Yeah, pretty bad.
Kenny Reilly: The S model came out and ⁓ it definitely was kind of like the step into the box for Ping as far as the bottom of the bag. And I think they knocked it out of the park, especially with the new model too. ⁓ know, everybody's kind of going into the micro groove designs and how they perform with wet conditions. ⁓ yeah, there's something to them for sure, both in the S159s and the 259s.
Matthew Zampello: Whenever I, whenever I get fit for a wedge, I mentally just check out because they give me so many different grinds I'm like, just like you said, tape over the grind, let me hit them and I'll tell you what I like. I don't know what you're going to tell me if you tell me what the K, K star, whatever D T grind. It's just like, I'm just going to hit a couple and you know, you don't have to tell me where the relief.
Kevin Spisak: Thank you.
Kenny Reilly: Yeah, yeah, and well, and I always laugh because these fitting fitting is such a interesting ideology, ⁓ you know, I laugh when I when I have a fitting it's like 20 minutes of talking and they're just like I'm ready to hit golf balls I'm like not yet you aren't because I got to figure out all of this other stuff before we do that ⁓ And usually like you Matt you you guys all you guys would do this
Dominic Colangelo: You
Kevin Spisak: ⁓ huh.
Kenny Reilly: You're gonna know within the first five or six wedge shots. You're gonna hit one good, you're gonna hit one bad, you're gonna hit one what you thought was good and it didn't end up being good. And then you're gonna be like, yeah, that could work. And then you go on to the next one. You don't need to know all of the accoutrement of why that one was good. sometimes it's too much information for a lot of these players to kind of digest and then they forget. why they're even hitting it. So ⁓ yeah, I'm big on testing them out, getting them dirty. And then you tell me what you think and then we'll go from there for sure.
Kevin Spisak: Yeah, on earth I think is as big of a ping fan as me and I can even say that calling their wedges, glide wedges, just screams 70 year old watching golf channel at 2 a.m. infomercial. ⁓ I'm going to get the glide wedges. It's going to help me get out of every bunker possible.
Kenny Reilly: ⁓ yeah. A little two on the nose and yeah, I'm glad they're scrapped them for sure.
Kevin Spisak: Yeah.
Dominic Colangelo: grinds, you're doing a fitting, is there any difference in hitting off a turf? Like is that kind of changing what people want or how they're reacting?
Kenny Reilly: I don't do wedge fittings inside. Because it's a perfect lie that you bounce through impact. It's negating anything that you're actually wanting outside, ⁓ with that short of a club and it's designed to be going through ⁓ the earth. ⁓ have to be able to compress a golf ball and inside anything that's coming down that steep, you're gonna catch high on the face. You're not gonna understand where that ball is striking on that wedge. So we have an interesting kind of... ⁓
Dominic Colangelo: okay.
Kevin Spisak: Thank you. Okay.
Kenny Reilly: I get looks from Kyle, my business partner, all the time. I just hand them out. I'm like, all right, hey, hey, look at me, Matt, I just met you, but I need your address and don't be a jerk, but take these with you and I'm gonna call you in three days and you're gonna tell me everything that you felt on these. And it's really more of like the fact that...
Kevin Spisak: Okay.
Kenny Reilly: You know, the gimme club, don't have a ton of inventory. We don't have this warehouse. We have a nine by nine office, which I call my office, which just holds all this stuff that is ⁓ spilling out into the common area. ⁓ the whole thing is, is that if you're going to spend five and a half hours on a golf course and during a round, you're going to get more feedback and more like uninhibited response than you ever would.
Kevin Spisak: Okay.
Kenny Reilly: in 30 to 45 minutes with, hey, I'm Kenny, I'm here to watch you hit golf balls in a sim, and I'm gonna watch every single one. It's just like, the whole interaction is very goofy. ⁓ It's very daunting. Like, hey, nice to meet you. Yeah, hit this in front of me and all these other people in here, and it better be good. And if it's not good, I don't know what to tell you. It's just...
Kevin Spisak: Ha ha ha ha ha. Ha.
Matthew Zampello: Yeah.
Kenny Reilly: It's very strange, it's very strange. Well, it's just to me, it's like, if we could be anything, I wanna be the easy ⁓ route for people to like feel comfortable testing stuff. ⁓ And the Sims are great, they're awesome for like head to heads on woods and irons, but it is a simulation of the real thing. if it's snowing, that's one thing, if it's a nice day,
Matthew Zampello: You're speaking to my soul here. You're speaking to my soul.
Dominic Colangelo: You
Kenny Reilly: ⁓ If it's a I usually like to go out with that person and go play and just just bring you know six or seven and and Have them try them a couple different times and that usually gets the point across of one I'm not just trying to get you out in an hour and sell you a club like kind of in more in-depth and in for the ride with that whole process so Kind of lowers everybody's guard down, but at the end of the day, they're not gonna get that kind of treatment or ⁓ you know, experience anywhere else and yeah, it'll be great.
Dominic Colangelo: I'm actually to hear both of you talk about this. ⁓ Let's hear about your putter. I know Kevin is a huge fan. ⁓
Kenny Reilly: What can I say, the Kelly & Co. Blade Z, double wide. ⁓ Interesting thing, Kev, I swapped out the neck today from the zero torque model to the plumber's neck in the center shaft position, which effectively made it a face balanced putter. ⁓ Fully locked with steel weights, which means that weight on that putter is just under 390 grams, so it's very, very heavy, but.
Kevin Spisak: Yeah. Okay.
Kenny Reilly: It was great. ⁓ Hit my lines today. Me and the zero torque was a fun thought. ⁓ I am just a very, I'm never, I don't have steel hands. I don't swing it straight back, straight through. So for me to even kind of think about that was kind of a Hail Mary thought, but the face balance kind of fought me on my inconsistencies and maybe a little bit of ⁓ yippiness on the hands. quieted everything down, I felt like I could actually lean into the stroke and make a pronounced slight arc and the lag putts were great, the distance control was awesome, saw three or four actually roll in from over 10 feet, to ⁓ me ⁓ was a win today for the new configuration and yeah, I'm really excited to see ⁓ how it's gonna do when these greens start to speed up and lines are a little bit more true, ball's gonna be rolling end over end. But today was, it was a dream.
Kevin Spisak: Yeah, the Kelly and co putters are awesome the feel of the face and the milling is so pure You know with me and Kenny looked at this putt that I had deemed an Unmakeable putt in the gimme golf club, and I think I made it five out of seven times ⁓ Yeah, even with that I still like I was still questioning it I was
Dominic Colangelo: You did?
Kevin Spisak: giving Kenny the hardest time possible about like if you're changing the weights you're changing the CG and then it took we had some expert analysis I did my own analysis figure out the sweet spot would only move 1.4 millimeters I think it was or or maybe it was point point one four millimeters at either way it was so small not not even a dimple of a golf ball and and that was with the the biggest most extreme change you could make So the if you are a low torque person if you like that You know you can really customize it to yourself and have low torque with tow hang Which is pretty like abnormal for some of the other major lines You can really hone it in you know to your stroke on top of you the the low or zero torque But they're really cool. I think the feel the feel of them is probably the best part of it to me Just you know when you hit a good putt and you get that just soft buttery pure end over end roll. You know, it just strikes so much confidence and makes you feel like you can make any putt there is.
Kenny Reilly: Yeah, I think the response is the biggest thing that I've heard people say is that ⁓ it's not harsh, but it's not muted. It's not the soft insert, but it's definitely not like a carbon audio thing. It's a subtle knock. yeah, you feel like you get everything out of the golf ball that you put into it. ⁓ I think it's probably a, with that stainless face. You're only kind of looking at like the top end of the putters that are out that use that kind of material. You're looking at, you know, six, seven, $800 on depending on what brand you're getting into. to have something that you can try, not only try, but configure to your stroke ⁓ in real time is a pleasant surprise for most people who are looking to contend in that part of the bag for sure.
Kevin Spisak: That's awesome. Yeah, we got to get Matt and Dom, Kelly and Co to test out and Yeah, maybe lion's share weekend.
Kenny Reilly: Yeah, and I would ⁓ love, we've got the single wide, which is the heel position with a short plumber's neck. We do have a longer plumber's neck that's available. And then we have three new necks and kind of development, ⁓ one to reach a zero torque for the blade, which will be interesting. ⁓ Same stainless steel face, just a more condensed profile at address. ⁓ The heel shafted double wide is for the guys who... Definitely need some closure there. And I would say this, yeah, if you guys are in for Lion's Share, it's a super easy fitting process. Kevin has done a fantastic job on kind of ⁓ honing in, like, what are the stats that matter? What do we want to look for as far as insistencies? And then ⁓ kind of moving back from that, how do we actually fix those with the materials and ⁓ the components that we have? ⁓ Big shout out to you, Kev. You kind of... reopened the door as far as how to conduct those fittings in a productive way. And yeah, if you guys are in, we'll roll a bunch. You can see them all. Put the ones that you think you like on one side of the wall and the other ones that are just no thanks. You put them on the other and we go from there.
Kevin Spisak: Awesome. I appreciate that Kenny and for anyone who doesn't know the lion's share is the member guest at the gimme golf club. So real fun weekend.
Kenny Reilly: ⁓ yes.
Dominic Colangelo: All right, so Kenny, thank you for sharing your bag and slipping under the covers with us. I think it's time to get into ⁓ our winner of the Valspar Matt Fitzpatrick, the Skechers king. ⁓ This is his third career win, which is actually surprising. I feel like ⁓ I've seen him in the circle more often. ⁓
Kevin Spisak: you
Matthew Zampello: He wins all the on the DP World. I think he was like 10 on the DP World Tour, so.
Dominic Colangelo: I think you're right there. I did look up he has 18 top five finishes in the PGA Tour, which is always a bridesmaid, never the bride situation. finished at 11 under. He went pretty consistent, 68, 69, 68, 68. And then SunJM, poor guy, we'll get into him in a little bit, but had that three stroke lead going into it. So Mathis Patrick kind of just, he kind of just outlasted. These guys, SunJay, ⁓ how do you pronounce that? Snendecker? I don't even, I know he's, yeah, I know he's a great, I know. Dude, I was practicing for three days on how to say that and I couldn't do it. And then Lipski, ⁓ which, who? Snoop Dogg, who? ⁓ Some interesting notes about Fitzpatrick. So, he only had four bogeys all week. Bogey free.
Matthew Zampello: Yeah. Neddiker? Nedd? He's the President's Cup captain! How can you forget that?
Dominic Colangelo: on the weekend. Three of those bogeys came on Friday, which is crazy. then, ⁓ you know, similar scores every day. He had birdie chances within 10 feet on that last round, and he either lipped them or burned the edge. It was ⁓ insane. I think the is saying maybe like the greens are drying up even more, ⁓ something like that. But ended up hitting that long putt on 18, and you could tell he was getting some frustration out of that fist pump. But yeah, massive win for Vispatrik, especially after losing out to Cameron Young as well. But I think a very important question is, what's under the covers?
Kevin Spisak: Yes, so Matt Fitzpatrick plays some pretty fun clubs equipment free agent as we mentioned In his driver. This one's exciting. He's got a Titleist GT3 with a Mitsubishi Tensei AV Raw Orange 65 ⁓ So we've got a very similar one right here that Kenny hooked me up ⁓ And shout out Mark Schulte for the GT3 Tensei Orange Combo, Gimme Golf Club regular champ and Dayton alum.
Dominic Colangelo: Sick. Mm-hmm.
Kevin Spisak: And then let's just add to that really quick. He's consistent with using the Tensei Orange across all of his woods, but he uses the AV RAW on his driver and 3-wood and then the 1K Pro ⁓ 80TX on his 5-wood. So let's ask the arms dealer, what's the difference between the AV and the 1K?
Kenny Reilly: Well, the 1K to me makes sense in a higher lofted wood. My guess is he's got better launch with that or more control of his window of launch. The AV White, or I'm sorry, the AV Raw is kind of a wild one to me. ⁓ If I'm not mistaken, that is a counterbalance shaft. ⁓ Knowing FizzPatrick, he has been on this quest for speed and he has... done it. He has manipulated his swing every which way to gain that speed and for his stature and package, he is per square inch. Yeah, yeah. See, I knew these things were gonna come. ⁓
Kevin Spisak: What about his package?
Matthew Zampello: Well, I think Kevin called him frumpy. Is that the word you used last week?
Kevin Spisak: Yeah, I said it was a frumpy win.
Kenny Reilly: Yeah. But I think, I think he's, he's, he's the strongest out there. I mean, he, his weight to height ratio, he is just as long, if not longer than most of those guys out there. ⁓
Dominic Colangelo: He's... Benjamin Button's got some swing speed.
Kenny Reilly: Yeah, no doubt. doubt. ⁓ Yeah, as far as that, know, that Kev, that's a CK ⁓ shaft, right? The orange shaft. So just different levels of, I guess, materials that they use in the tips and just tolerances on how they were. But, ⁓ you know, it's an interesting choice. know, Mitsubishi is probably the king of most of the graphite wood shafts. ⁓
Kevin Spisak: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Kenny Reilly: and has been for a very long time. So it doesn't doubt, it doesn't surprise me that he's in there consistently through that. Do you feel that he's using it for a kind of a honing in on the crazy move that he makes on that ball?
Kevin Spisak: Yeah, I think it's got to be four speed like you mentioned he's been pretty vocal about trying to keep up and the counterbalance will keep some weight in his hands allow him to play a longer shaft and then he can really go after it and You know the tense a orange being a really stiff low spin shaft is gonna help him with the control so he can Let it rip and try to keep up ⁓ You know, I was very excited to see when he, or, you know, when he won and this being the shaft he was using. Yeah. know, ⁓ Tiger and Rory and some other big guys have played around with the Tensei Orange in the past. ⁓ you know, we've got some gimme golf guys who've tested them out and really liked them. I actually, I really liked mine, but it just couldn't beat my Hulk. ⁓ but I keep it in the bag for on that ⁓ emergency if my whole cover breaks. I've got it back up ready to go. ⁓ I've thought about like trying to sell it or something, maybe moving on, test with something else, but I can't bring myself to actually move on from it. I'm holding out hope that one day it'll make its way permanently into my bag.
Kenny Reilly: Absolutely.
Kevin Spisak: so moving on. ⁓ We talked about the shafts, ⁓ but his three wood five wood are Qi35 So Qi35 making an appearance. We've lots about those not being a tour favorite in comparison to the Qi ⁓ 10s or now this year the Qi 4D. So interesting that Matt Fitzpatrick likes those, but he's got a three wood and five Consistent on the weight of each shaft. So 65 in his driver, 75 three wood and 80 in his five wood, which is different from what we saw with, who was it like two weeks ago? I think that had like the crazy shaft weights. Was it Cameron again?
Dominic Colangelo: in the camera young.
Matthew Zampello: Yeah, I can't remember. Or Akshay, might have been Akshay too. I can't remember.
Kenny Reilly: Akshay is a serial like I like to be different make it as crazy as you want ⁓ so But kind of a insider thing there just because of the weight ⁓ You got to be thinking that you know those those are different lengths Obviously drivers and the fairways, but the weight isn't really more. It's not anything like it's like heavier It's just the thickness of the wall shaft on on that that material, so it's not so much of heavier.
Dominic Colangelo: Yeah
Kevin Spisak: Thank you
Kenny Reilly: It's in a shorter club and it's just stouter with the material just being thicker throughout the entirety of that shaft. ⁓ usually as the shaft gets shorter, the weight's really important there, but ⁓ he seems pretty uniform of going heavier, at least thicker, in essence, a little bit more stout as he goes down into the five wood for sure.
Kevin Spisak: Last.
Dominic Colangelo: And it was Cameron Young. went driver was 60, three-wheeled was 80, and then his hybrid was also 80. I
Kevin Spisak: Yeah, so Matt Fitzpatrick Then on his irons, the Ping I210s on his 4 iron, and then the Ping S55 5 through 9, shafts is a Ping CFS, extra stiff. What do we know about those boys?
Kenny Reilly: The CFS was the of like the made for of that model. ⁓ Ping is a team of engineers. So when they put together a club and a specific component match, it's usually the best of what they've done. You know, kind of a little insider baseball. ⁓ Nippon makes all of the shafts for Ping. So their AWTs, their CFS is back from yesteryear. ⁓ For all of their iron shafts, Nippon is kind of producing all of that for them under the Ping name, whether it's the AWT or so on and so forth. But the graphite component is the UST shafts. to be honest, ⁓ big kudos out to Ping. Matt in the tour department, I don't know if you're, hopefully you're listening to this. They are the nth degree.
Kevin Spisak: Yeah. Thank
Kenny Reilly: on testing and confirming all of the specs, but those guys know what they're doing when they're putting these clubs together, and that's why you see a lot of these guys go back to these clubs. mean, Victor Hovland, I think that they had to pry the two 10s out of his hands. He's probably still playing them, to be honest, but they're just so darn good. The 55s are just bad dream.
Kevin Spisak: Yeah. He needs to win a tournament so we can talk about his clubs.
Matthew Zampello: Released in 2013, the S55s That's crazy for somebody on tour to be playing some stuff that old, but it's cool, man. S55s I mean, one of the best irons probably, I mean, you put irons in the pantheon of irons and it's probably in the top 10 for sure, right? There's probably some Mizuno up there, probably a couple of Mira, a couple of Titleist, but the S-55 are right up there with a lot of the pantheon of irons out there.
Kenny Reilly: Well, and I think the coolest thing is it's not like a Mira or a, you know, these custom national custom works, whatever. This is a marketed product sold to the masses since 2013 and he's still got them in the bag. is, if that's not a true test of being like, you can play the same irons as Matt Fitzpatrick. You can get on eBay like Kevin does and go and find a set. You know what I mean?
Matthew Zampello: Yeah. If you see a guy with S55s in an old ping hoover bag, don't bet him. That's the only advice I can give you.
Kenny Reilly: No, yeah, not playing for money. No way. No way.
Dominic Colangelo: Are they, whenever, you know, they released that long ago, are they remaking these or are they literally the same ones he had 13 years ago?
Kenny Reilly: ⁓ I'm almost certain that they are probably the same or if he asked for them, they probably have some crazy vault out there in Phoenix that they have some sets there. ⁓ That's a great question that I don't know if they reproduce them for the tour professionals, but ⁓ it's so wild that like each one of these iron sets has a serial number and they actually keep the records of them. It's not like they have them, know, stocked in there, but they can recreate these irons. to that spec based on that serial number. Absolutely wild. So usually it's a two year life cycle for Ping product. So you usually have this movement of pushing out like other major brands, but they actually hang on for a year for replacement iron. So if it was 2017 and Matt, you're playing the S55s and you lost one or broke one, you could actually go back and request. from your serial number, unmatching from that lot. And if it was in that three-year cycle, you would have gotten one from the same lot.
Matthew Zampello: Hmm. That's new. I didn't know that.
Kevin Spisak: That's awesome That's very cool gotta love ping I gotta love ping So then his wedges we almost had another FM k lineup but by one ⁓ got Titleist the Vokey SM10s
Dominic Colangelo: Yeah. You
Kevin Spisak: 48 degree F-grind, 52 degree F-grind, 56 degree M-grind, and 60 M-grind. So he couldn't have just picked one of them as a K grind, but Schafts and those are Dynamic Gold S300s. He's got a little cool MF stamp in there, so we know someone who does some wedge stamps, and ⁓ we gotta get some fancier than just the MF, Matt.
Matthew Zampello: Yeah, no, I love a good ⁓ wedge set. Pretty standard stuff here though. M-grind is a great grind, great all around. He probably doesn't have to change it. A lot of guys will go for soft conditions, hard conditions, whatever. ⁓ and you know, I guess works well for his cross-handed chipping.
Dominic Colangelo: Yeah.
Kenny Reilly: Well, of course he doesn't need all the crazy grinds, he's just got three other wedges to choose from. What a psycho. Good, good gosh.
Matthew Zampello: Exactly. Yeah.
Dominic Colangelo: That's wild. I was actually curious. Kenny, you play 58 and 54. What degree is your gap wedge?
Kenny Reilly: It is a 51.
Dominic Colangelo: Ooh, okay. So it's right there in that same little realm. Nice.
Kenny Reilly: Yeah, I mean, you're anywhere. Nothing's too crazy. I would say, you know, four to six degrees, depending on how hard or how full you hit your wedges. But anything under a gap wedge to me, I don't hit anything all out. And I think that's usually kind of like that. It makes perfect sense, especially Mr. Crosshand himself. He's probably got specific distances that he hits the 52 versus the 48 and then the 56. It's pretty wild to like. do the optical pat down of his bag, again, he's Mr. Robot, so he's probably got a specific time or a way that he swings each one, so that makes sense.
Kevin Spisak: So the last club in the bag ⁓ is a very exciting one. We've got a Bettinardi putter with a yes golf ⁓ C-groove So we talked a lot about the, what the sea groove meant last week when I was making fun of Matt Fitzpatrick for cross-handed chipping and being frumpy. ⁓ He's got 12 year old's head with a frumpy dad bod, but he plays a sweet putter.
Matthew Zampello: and being frumpy.
Kevin Spisak: This bett Nardi is awesome and it's really cool that he is consistent to the yes golf face that he played for such a long time. ⁓ Really cool blade design on this one.
Matthew Zampello: And he recently went back from the mallet. So he's, he's one of the weirder ones who's gone mallet back to blade and putted better. think he went mallet almost all last year and had one of his, one of his worst putting stat years. So, know, kind of odd.
Kenny Reilly: Well, it was kind of like, hey, everybody else is playing mallet. You think I should give it a roll? And they're like, his brother's probably like, yeah, dude, do it. And then it was awful. But can you think about the balls on this guy? He went up to bet and already and was like, yeah, I mean, I'll use one of your putters. You just got to make it look like this. And they were like, but that's not what we do. And he's like, fine, I'll just play the yes that I've just won my tournament with. And I don't have to do anything different. They're like.
Matthew Zampello: Right.
Kevin Spisak: hahaha
Dominic Colangelo: hahahaha ⁓
Kenny Reilly: Okay, we'll do it. It's so wild. That's wild.
Dominic Colangelo: Yeah, they're fine.
Kevin Spisak: Ha ha ha ha.
Matthew Zampello: And he's got a sick Sheffield United stamp on the back. I'm not, look, Google that this morning, saw a little cool little, he's big Sheffield United fan in the English Premier League. So it's got some cool customization on
Dominic Colangelo: We'll throw a picture up.
Kevin Spisak: Awesome that'll really play for our international fans
Matthew Zampello: That's right.
Kevin Spisak: And last but not least, for extra credit, he plays the Titleist Pro V1X Golf Ball.
Dominic Colangelo: Yeah, and I think that the tournament itself, found myself not, my eyes weren't glued to the screen this tournament. I don't know why, I don't know if I'm falling into the consumerism trap of lower scores is more fun to watch. ⁓ And I hope that's not where my brain is at right now. But it was just a very interesting tournament.
Matthew Zampello: Yeah. I think the Copperhead course, it's not the most visually appealing, but I think it's sweet, man. 11-under for these guys is pretty stout. That's nearly what they're winning US Open's at in PGA Championships, right? ⁓ I think this course deserves a signature event. I hope they have one there. I hope it's not a B-team event. I would love to see Scottie Schaeffler try to hit some of those shots, right? mean, Dick Ruff.
Kevin Spisak: So,
Matthew Zampello: Bermuda Greens, it's a tough little golf course. It's a sneaky good one on tour. I hope it gets the credit it deserves in this new PGA Tour era is my big take on it.
Kevin Spisak: Okay. Ha ha ha.
Dominic Colangelo: I do love starting with a reachable par 5. That's a fun start.
Matthew Zampello: ⁓ yeah. Yeah.
Kenny Reilly: A subtle handshake for these guys. Yeah, yeah. But I was gonna ask like, Matt, do you think that that makes a difference for these players with the Bermuda? cause that's 100 % different territory. If you're not ready for it, you're gonna, your pizza and when you should French fry, you know I mean? It's a bad deal.
Matthew Zampello: For sure. ⁓ my gosh. it
Kevin Spisak: Ha ha.
Matthew Zampello: Quick story, I went from junior golf in Texas and I went to Arizona to go play college golf and it was in like Northern Arizona, so it ⁓ was rye, bent ⁓ I felt like I could hit any You could give me any chip shot, you could give me any flag, I'll stop it. Not a problem. I could get any wedge underneath the ball and then you go back to Texas and you chip off Bermuda green or Bermuda grass. Dude, it's just a different story. And then the toughest part is, you know, you have a putt that's obviously going left and with the grain, it's going right. Like it's so hard to read grain. It's just, it messes with these guys. They do not like it. And I think that's why Scottie plays so well on the stuff as he grew up on it. So he's used to it, but man, it's not ⁓ it's not an easy place to play for sure. And I think that messes with pros heads.
Kevin Spisak: Yeah.
Kenny Reilly: 100 % agreed, 100%. It's gotta be like circled on the calendar of being like, okay, we gotta go early on this one, we gotta go early, you know?
Dominic Colangelo: You
Matthew Zampello: Yeah. And then I think the other big thing there is ⁓ Sungjae, man. He's such a good ball striker, such a good golfer, but he just never I've never seen him win. Like if Sungjae is in the in the in the last group, I it's almost like you bet against him now because he just doesn't win. Like I feel bad for the guy. But when when has he been like, ⁓ yes, Sungjae, he's good. He's going to he's going to come out on top on this week. It just doesn't happen.
Dominic Colangelo: He's gonna pull this off.
Kenny Reilly: Dude, Sungjae's just catching strays from Matt over here, man. Damn. He just signed off, man. We just lost a viewer because of you, man. Come on.
Matthew Zampello: I know, I know. I need to see a lot more from someday. I need to see a
Dominic Colangelo: That happens. That happens. Right?
Matthew Zampello: I'm sorry Korea. I'm sorry, but we need more from him and only live I think he's a doubt either Dallas or Atlanta a lot of the Korean guys hang out and hang out in the DFW area So I know see who's out here. He's a he's a new notorious DFW golfer, but
Kevin Spisak: Hahaha.
Dominic Colangelo: You're talking about greens and putting. A very interesting tidbit was, and I looked on the website, PJ's website, and tried to count myself, and then I used chatGBT a little bit. From what I am understanding, including fringe chips, sand shots, bunkers, whatever, there was 133 hole-outs this weekend, which is insane. And I tried to look up the next highest.
Matthew Zampello: Yeah.
Dominic Colangelo: And it's one of those where people don't really keep track of that stat. But apparently, the next highest that's recorded is like 87. Unreal.
Matthew Zampello: They were talking about it on the broadcast. I don't know why. just happens to be like people just hole out there.
Dominic Colangelo: I don't know.
Kenny Reilly: Maybe they just didn't want to putt it, you know what mean? They said, putting, dude, just chip it in, get out of here, yeah.
Matthew Zampello: Weird, weird stats.
Dominic Colangelo: Yeah!
Matthew Zampello: It must fall on like a whole moon or something, you know, that tournament.
Kevin Spisak: Okay. So, thank
Dominic Colangelo: There was some drama though, ⁓ our boy the winner he kind of tattletailed a little bit on Adrian Dumond de Chassar I used Google for that one, but yeah he had I know it's ridiculous, he had five hole outs himself But the issue was he was just playing so slow like they were a hole and a half behind on that last round
Matthew Zampello: Thank you.
Kenny Reilly: Yeah, you nailed that one, but you can't get stricker, dude? What are you doing?
Matthew Zampello: You
Kevin Spisak: What? didn't say anything.
Matthew Zampello: dude slow play we gotta we gotta start stroking these guys they're making they're they're making 10 million dollars like you gotta get them you gotta get them out shut up kevin i know what you're doing here
Dominic Colangelo: At one point I was looking at the the the leaderboard and I felt like Patrick coming home to his rock and he's like who are you people?
Kevin Spisak: Ha ha ha.
Kenny Reilly: Well, I would say this is I do not enjoy slow play, but I do try to put myself in these players mind frames. A lot of these guys, especially the, you know, and the guys from abroad, like they're in a new country. They're playing golf. This is what they've trained for. They've got a process. It is slower than most. But Fitzpatrick, like you said, he's got 18 top what? Top fives?
Matthew Zampello: Yeah?
Dominic Colangelo: Yeah.
Kenny Reilly: He's been there, he's played it. This is normal for him. That guy was probably scared to death being in that group, dude. Like he's probably like, okay, I gotta remember all my training or, and I just, I don't know if I would play slow, I'd probably be the opposite and just be like, I'm fine, I'll pick up, no, no worries, like I'm good, I'm in my pocket. But I think that these...
Dominic Colangelo: That's a great point. You're bringing back our German listeners.
Kevin Spisak: Okay. Ha ha.
Kenny Reilly: These guys got a process and it just sometimes it can drag out and yeah, Mr. Fitzpatrick not happy about it, but he got the number one so he can cry river and be okay with that.
Matthew Zampello: Never seen a piece of Bermuda grass in his life, bet. that's probably half the reason.
Kenny Reilly: Yeah. What is this? Yeah. ⁓
Dominic Colangelo: I feel like that kind of happened to Jacob Bridgman at the Pebble where he wasn't in it anymore and then he had that Aaron shot on 18. He's just like, can I just get out of this hole and get out of the way, please?
Kevin Spisak: Okay.
Kenny Reilly: I don't want to play anymore. Yeah.
Dominic Colangelo: Get me off the screen, please.
Matthew Zampello: ⁓ Jumping into news, hit some quick points here. Bryson wins his second live event in a row. It was an absolute madhouse down in South Africa it looked like. was equal parts, looked like an absolute shit show. I saw some stuff on Twitter of people fighting and then equal parts like. Just South Africa sports culture all rallying around four guys trying to get them on to victory like it was it looked like an insane scene down there ⁓ Live I feel like it's really leaning into that like whole national open. This is the premiere event We're bringing all the we're bringing some of the best players in the world to these countries that never see some of the best players in the world, so ⁓
Dominic Colangelo: Mmm.
Kevin Spisak: I .
Matthew Zampello: super, I mean, if they can keep doing things like this, I think is where they get, ⁓ they get traction. And I think it only helped that they got ramen Bryson down the stretch, right? if you get, you know,
Dominic Colangelo: totally.
Matthew Zampello: Ian Poulter versus, you know, friggin' Bubba Watson down the stretch. Yeah, you're gonna get some niche ⁓ golf nerds like myself in there, but ⁓ not gonna get the ⁓ ones in there. So I think Rahm and Bryson definitely helps ⁓ get some eyes to the screen. So I'm excited to see what kind of the viewership looked like for that ⁓ week, but ⁓
Dominic Colangelo: It's kind of like what you're saying whenever we were going through that PGA tour, the proposed PGA tour schedule, you were saying PGA should go to those big markets like in August, have one of the playoff in Boston, because they love that playoff culture. I wonder, it seems like Liv is doing the same thing where pretty much everywhere but USA has such passion for their national sports. So I think like you said, South Africa is just, they have that rah rah mentality. So they love that event.
Matthew Zampello: Right. Yeah. And then.
Kenny Reilly: I think teaming it with big names though too, it's easy for them to root for. It's easy to be excited about some big names in your home country and have a reason for everybody to show up and show out for sure.
Dominic Colangelo: Totally. Mm-hmm.
Matthew Zampello: And think Bryson, I mean, we got to talk. I think he's going to be a master's favorite, right? I think he's going to go into the masters being like, can Bryson win the masters? And I think if Bryson wins the masters, he's going to ask Liv for a billion dollars.
Kevin Spisak: Okay.
Kenny Reilly: Well, he asked LA Golf for 51 % of their company, right? You guys hear about that?
Matthew Zampello: Exactly. Yeah.
Kevin Spisak: Right the guy who's like the most anal club technology guy that exists ⁓ But you don't don't forget he's starting the Masters, you know three shots better than anyone else because he's so long
Dominic Colangelo: That was insane. And then you started talking mess about the club technology these days and how it's not really doing anything.
Matthew Zampello: It's just- Yeah.
Dominic Colangelo: Unreal.
Matthew Zampello: car. I'm surprised he's allowed on property to be quite honest with you. Kevin, I'll do you a favor. I'll report back after Monday and tell you if it's a par 67 or what I feel the par is. I will let you know. ⁓
Kevin Spisak: Yeah.
Dominic Colangelo: He's so long.
Kevin Spisak: Alright, cool.
Dominic Colangelo: Yeah, breaking news, our resident Matt is going to the Masters on Monday. Unreal.
Matthew Zampello: Dude, I am so excited. It was ⁓ a last minute invite. I'm the fourth of a fourth of a fourth, I think, but I'm in baby. I'm going. I moved plans around. paid the cancel flight, the change flight fees. I will be in Atlanta on Sunday night and I will be in the car on Monday morning driving to the Masters. ⁓ I'm excited. ⁓
Kenny Reilly: Yeah.
Dominic Colangelo: Incredible.
Kevin Spisak: That's awesome.
Kenny Reilly: Yeah, congratulations. That's awesome.
Matthew Zampello: Yeah, I don't know how it happened, it was, it's been, it's been, it's been a wild ride. I just gotta, she's gotta get to the next two weeks. ⁓ make sure I, you know, don't piss off anybody at work and I keep my ticket. So, then, then the next thing is, is title is GTS. we got a secret kind of a sneaky release. Titleist doesn't usually release until May-ish ish for drivers around. ⁓ and they're on tour this week at the Houston Open. So new Titleist drivers, supposedly this is faster than GT model. So we'll see, GT model was pretty special. but I'd love to get it, know, maybe that gets me to 180, who knows.
Kevin Spisak: Yeah. These these look so sick. I am quite excited. Just just looking at him has me quite excited. Going back to my joke from last week, the meme of me walking with my ping and loving it, but looking back and seeing no.
Dominic Colangelo: They look so clean.
Kevin Spisak: what Titleist got working over there. yeah, the GTS will be very cool and it definitely reflects with Titleist price decrease that they came out with here a couple of weeks ago. So I'm sure they got a surge of sales and now all those people are like, you've got to be kidding me. The next driver just came out. I just spent all these hundreds of bucks, but the GT model was so successful. No matter which one you got, you definitely bought a really good driver. you know, at a great deal. But another piece of golf news, I've got the TGL final here going on in the background. And I swear, every time my eyes have glanced up, somebody is missing a putt. It is crazy. I keep on thinking I'm watching the same replay over and over again. But it is just miss putt after miss putt. And Team Jupiter is up five four after 14. So more to come there.
Matthew Zampello: Is little Kevin Kisner playing? he?
Dominic Colangelo: He's not so little anymore.
Kevin Spisak: I don't think so, no.
Matthew Zampello: I thought he was part of Jupe Links today, because of Akshay going to India.
Kevin Spisak: Oh is he I'm staring at LA right now. Justin Rose had a pretty sick hole out. Yeah. They they initiated owner mode like Kenny does to us at the gimme golf club.
Matthew Zampello: ⁓ ⁓ they must have used the script. Hey, make sure you hold this out.
Dominic Colangelo: Yeah.
Kenny Reilly: Yeah.
Dominic Colangelo: owner mode.
Kenny Reilly: Yeah, the hot keys, know, ah, man, it just goes in, man.
Matthew Zampello: ⁓
Dominic Colangelo: Yeah, yeah.
Matthew Zampello: So going into the Houston Open, ⁓ really cool tournament. ⁓ If you're not familiar with it, ⁓ ⁓ big golf market, but one of the cool things they do is Memorial Park Golf Course hosts this tournament. ⁓ Public track, ⁓ than $50 if you're in the Houston area, Houston zip code, to play a golf course they play on tour. Gets.
Kevin Spisak: .
Matthew Zampello: I would argue probably the most rounds per year for any tour golf course that they play all year round for sure. Maybe Pebble gets more, which is an insane stat, but I would go out on a limb and say Memorial Park gets more than Pebble with the amount of teams they push through there. I've probably played this golf course a hundred times back in my heyday. So Houston match play used to be at Memorial Park. before it was redone. So before it was redone, it used to be 18 of the identical straight holes, just 18 straight golf holes, all the same bunker at 285, green circle, green bunker, right and left. Every hole was the same. Tom Doak and Brooks Koepka came in and redid it. I played it a couple of years ago and I usually, I thought it was Gil Hance and I was like, man, I usually like Gil Hance courses, but I freaking hate this one. I just realized it was Tom Doak, which makes total sense because I hate Pacific Dunes and I hate this place. So he ruined it in my eyes. But otherwise, cool event. ⁓ Big wide fairways. You can hit driver literally anywhere.
Kenny Reilly: And you hate that.
Matthew Zampello: Yeah, I didn't have the speed back then like I'm working towards now.
Kevin Spisak: Ha ha ha!
Dominic Colangelo: Yeah.
Kenny Reilly: Got it.
Dominic Colangelo: And there's only like 20 bunkers on the whole place, which is wild to me. Yeah, I know. It's great for us.
Matthew Zampello: Yeah.
Kenny Reilly: Sounds awesome.
Kevin Spisak: Yeah. Yeah, sounds like my kind of place. I wish I'd played it.
Kenny Reilly: Matt, Matt, what is it that makes you hate it other than dope did it?
Matthew Zampello: Well, I don't vibe with Doke. think his stuff is too tricked up. ⁓ He puts some crazy slopes in there. Things that look very out of place for Houston, the greens are all super pushed up. So every hole is like, if you miss the green, you're chipping from 10 feet, 15 feet below the level of the green. ⁓ I don't know, it just doesn't, I wouldn't say that I,
Kevin Spisak: So,
Matthew Zampello: It's not good. just doesn't, dokes never set up for my eye. And so when I play dope courses, I just get, I get all in a tizzy. I just don't, I don't love the dope mindset. I don't love what he's asking you to do, but you know what? I think he, he, he, he's able to test the pros and he knows how to do that. So all credit to him. ⁓
Kenny Reilly: So it's what you're saying is more of a second shot chorus. can kind of hit it anywhere and then you really got to dial it on that second.
Matthew Zampello: Yeah, for sure. mean, if you look at it like Min Woo Lee won, he absolutely hits the ball like crazy. And then, you know, he's maybe not the best iron player in the world. But if you hit it three thirty, three forty off the tee, you're going to play pretty good out there. So.
Dominic Colangelo: Matt, do you have your shell open plaque available? Is it still on the wall?
Matthew Zampello: I do. Yeah, right here.
Dominic Colangelo: Let's just shout that out real quick.
Kevin Spisak: That's awesome.
Dominic Colangelo: Is it fixed? Where's one with the scorecard?
Matthew Zampello: Oh, I don't know. must have taken it down. Probably got lost in the move. But back when the shell he stood open was at Redstone high school tournament, I aced the seventh hole. So five iron from I believe it was 180 knocked it in, baby. Yeah. Crazy stuff, No, I think it was high school. I was probably somewhere in the 70s at that point.
Dominic Colangelo: Okay
Kenny Reilly: hell.
Dominic Colangelo: Unreal. Still shot a 68, I'm pretty sure, if I remember correctly.
Kevin Spisak: ⁓ Rewind a little bit. Yeah, Kevin Kissner is playing right now. I just saw him tee off. So I glanced up and it wasn't to miss putt. It was to see Kevin Kissner. So TGL is still going strong.
Dominic Colangelo: Mmm, there you go.
Matthew Zampello: It's good. It's good. It's really nice that Kevin's enjoying his hobbies these days.
Kevin Spisak: Yes, yes.
Dominic Colangelo: You
Kevin Spisak: so with the, uh, Texas children's Houston open, we've talked to every week about hardest holes on the PJ tour and, you know, some stats around the course. The hardest hole on the course, according to the 2025 season was number one. So you're starting off first hole as your hardest hole of the day. Uh, in 2025, it averaged 0.2 shots over par for the field. And that. was 94th on the PGA Tour season. you know, interesting there that you start off ⁓ the hardest. Most courses it seemed like they were finishing holes or ⁓ the end ⁓ the ⁓ ⁓ but Memorial starts you off with a hard one there. ⁓ So got a trivia question for you guys. Trivia time, our weekly game. ⁓ We've got a Houston native here. Thank you, Dom, for being from Houston to add to this trivia. ⁓
Matthew Zampello: To Houston. Thank you very much.
Dominic Colangelo: I was gonna say Matthew, Matthew is technically from Houston, just lives in Dallas. Yeah.
Kevin Spisak: ⁓ you're from, ⁓ I didn't know you were from Houston. you probably told me. just, my brain is so just on you as Dallas. so the Astros Golf Foundation ⁓ a major sponsor of the Texas Children's Houston Open. Dom, did you know that?
Dominic Colangelo: I did. It's very fun. Isn't that, is that what Spark 3 model or?
Matthew Zampello: Yeah, because they were going to lose the tournament because shell pulled out.
Kevin Spisak: Exactly.
Dominic Colangelo: ⁓ that's right, it'll show. Okay, cool.
Kevin Spisak: Yeah, so when the Astros are not too busy banging on trash cans and, you know, wearing wires under their jerseys, they're fixing up golf courses. Who knew? Alleged wire. No one ever saw it.
Dominic Colangelo: Allegedly alleged wire alleged wire never proven
Kenny Reilly: Yeah.
Kevin Spisak: So I've got a two-parter trivia question because Dom can't answer the first one. I know it. So the logo of the Texas Children's Houston Open is inspired after an Astros jersey with what nickname? If anyone gets the question right, then all the others will have to chug a beer.
Matthew Zampello: ⁓ It's, ⁓
Dominic Colangelo: don't even know if I know this one.
Kenny Reilly: It's a name? It's a nickname? Or a-
Kevin Spisak: It's the nickname of the jersey that might or might not be on the screen right now.
Matthew Zampello: I know the jersey you're talking about. It's the one of the Nolan Ryan jersey.
Kenny Reilly: I got nothing, I have no idea.
Dominic Colangelo: Yeah.
Kevin Spisak: Damn you don't know.
Dominic Colangelo: Matt, you have a guess?
Matthew Zampello: Is it from... No, I have no idea, I can't even tell you.
Kevin Spisak: Hmm. Dom, any guesses? The nickname of the jersey that's behind you that has inspired the Houston Open logo?
Dominic Colangelo: I didn't even know I had a nickname, if I'm being honest with you.
Kevin Spisak: ⁓ I'll give you guys one more hint. It's also the name of a beverage.
Dominic Colangelo: Sunrise. Nice. Alright, what's the second part?
Kevin Spisak: Nailed it. There you go. ⁓ Well. So you got it right, so it doesn't count. ⁓ So your question is. The Memorial Park has hosted this tournament in several occasions. ⁓ Three different instances of hosting it, and by instances I mean like Windows of Time. When was the first?
Matthew Zampello: It was way back in the day.
Dominic Colangelo: we doing like exact year?
Kevin Spisak: I'll give you plus or minus five years.
Dominic Colangelo: 74. That's my guess. I'm shot in the dark. I have no idea.
Matthew Zampello: Now. 1956.
Kevin Spisak: Hello Kenny, what do you think?
Kenny Reilly: 1959.
Kevin Spisak: God, 1947. So our boys were getting home from fighting in wars and just going straight to the Houston Open.
Dominic Colangelo: Whoa!
Matthew Zampello: I knew it was early. knew it was early. I'm pretty sure that restaurant's been there since 1947. can't remember the freaking restaurant, but it serves this. I've had that same fucking egg sandwich so many damn times.
Dominic Colangelo: Well, there you go.
Kevin Spisak: ⁓ You really hate this golf course.
Kenny Reilly: Yeah.
Matthew Zampello: I've had a lot of losses and lot of wins there.
Dominic Colangelo: That's fair, that's fair.
Matthew Zampello: Yeah, I actually, think I might have played Rob Todd on
Dominic Colangelo: ⁓ shout out Robbie!
Matthew Zampello: Ha
Kevin Spisak: One more thing about the golf course. And think we're finding out that Matt is a country club guy and not a municipal golf course kind of guy. So I don't know, maybe giving golf's not the place for Matt.
Dominic Colangelo: Yeah, I don't think so. little high and mighty over there, Matt.
Matthew Zampello: My golf course is open to the public, baby.
Dominic Colangelo: It's only semi-private. The thing that brings us into our one and done's. quick refresher, one and done, each week we're choosing a player. And based on wherever they finish, we're adding up that placement. And then lowest score wins after the season is complete. So quick recap for last week at the Valspar. Matt went with the previous winner, Victor Hovland. And once again, his pick missed the cut.
Kevin Spisak: Ha ha ha.
Dominic Colangelo: It's comical, it's comical. Finished with a 90, ⁓ a placement of 90, sorry. And then Kevin, a little bit of drama. I've done this multiple times, so we allowed it. He went with Okshay ⁓ on the podcast. Wednesday, withdraw, which is just not fair. So before the tournament started, Kevin texted us, he's going Spieth, which I think is a great choice. Ended up being the best out of all of us at T11. And then I went with Jacob Bridgman and had a T14. So that brings our totals to Matt is.
Matthew Zampello: Way in last.
Dominic Colangelo: Yeah, I lost my place. Matt is at 279. Yeesh. Kevin is at 161, and I am sitting at 80. So I haven't quite hit that 100 spot yet, but it's coming. I can feel Let's go guests. You get the first pick. I think we're going to include the guests on our one and done's and kind of maybe take, I think taking the average will be fun of each time for the guests because you know, who knows how many guests we're going to have. So Kenny, why don't you give us a pick. You can choose whoever you want. Clean slate, who are you going for with Houston Children Houston Open.
Kenny Reilly: ⁓ Kind of a, you know, I know he's, I checked earlier, he's actually, the odds are kind of in his favor, but I'm gonna roll with Minwoo. I think he, the speed is there. ⁓ Obviously you've got Mr. Scotty Scheffler up there, but I think that if anybody's due, he is, so I'm gonna kind of attach to that cart, and I think that he could have a good week for sure.
Dominic Colangelo: It's a good pick. I like that.
Kevin Spisak: Nice. Good pick. Ranked number 31 in the world right now.
Dominic Colangelo: Previous winner.
Matthew Zampello: All right, ⁓ I'm going Alejandro Toasty. ⁓ Notoriously plays well at the Houston Open. Loves the Houston Open. Has a little Argentinian flair. ⁓ Loves the Spanish vibe down in Houston. We're going Alejandro Toasty.
Dominic Colangelo: I would have bet the house you'd throw some random name out there. Alright Kevin, who you got?
Kevin Spisak: Hahaha.
Matthew Zampello: You
Kevin Spisak: Yeah. Yeah, Matt can't keep missing cuts if he picks people who are highly ranked. ⁓ I'm going to go with the world ranked number 27 golfer Ryan Gerrard.
Dominic Colangelo: You
Kevin Spisak: never heard of him before. stunned that I don't know of a golfer in the top 30 but never heard of him and I see him on the tee sheet here. We're letting it rip.
Matthew Zampello: He, fun Ryan Graff story, to get into the Masters this year, he flew in December to Mauritius, which is in Africa, to go play the Mauritius Open, because he was 51 in the world rankings. And he got second to go to 50 to get an automatic bid into the Masters this year. Crazy story. Yeah.
Dominic Colangelo: Nice.
Kevin Spisak: ⁓ jeez. That's incredible. What a guy. I like him even more now.
Dominic Colangelo: Whoa.
Kenny Reilly: That is awesome.
Dominic Colangelo: That's cool.
Kenny Reilly: True wild card.
Dominic Colangelo: I'm just realizing that I didn't check the actual T sheet to make sure my choice is on here. So yeah.
Matthew Zampello: Yeah, Dom has to check the actual, he's picked, is it two times he's picked somebody that's not on the T-sheet?
Kevin Spisak: I thought it was just I thought it was just Kurt Kitayama.
Dominic Colangelo: Yes, no once yeah, it was kittyama and then Yeah, I picked max Homa and then you you almost like you got kind of scared with Adam Scott that one time
Matthew Zampello: It was Max Homa. Did you pick Max Homa? I did, I did.
Kevin Spisak: hit Kenny as a penalty for Dom the first time picking someone who withdrew. Me and Matt get to tell him when he has to take a shot at a random point. So I think I might redeem mine right now.
Dominic Colangelo: ⁓ fuck, okay. You dirty dog.
Kenny Reilly: ⁓ my goodness.
Kevin Spisak: Which I know I've got one coming back my way for the Jordan Speed pick.
Dominic Colangelo: Yeah. my my first option is not on t-sheet ⁓ feel like it would fit his game a little I was going to go Cory Connors ⁓ Been playing lately really good long iron player ⁓ But I think what I'm do ⁓ and I think this is a bit dumb with how inconsistent he's been this year, previous winner typically plays well. Give me the Swaggy P Tony Fee now.
Matthew Zampello: ⁓ Good pick, hits it long way.
Kevin Spisak: Okay.
Dominic Colangelo: Lock it in. All let me get a shot.
Matthew Zampello: Good pick.
Dominic Colangelo: Okay. The only whiskey I have is one I didn't want to shoot. So this is rum that I got for my honeymoon. And it's a cool label. It's not the best to shoot, so. Cheers to Max Homa.
Matthew Zampello: Angle then.
Kevin Spisak: Ooh. Cheers Max.
Kenny Reilly: Well done.
Dominic Colangelo: That was a bigger shot. Bigger shot than I thought. Alright, so. Smooth. ⁓
Matthew Zampello: Good stuff.
Dominic Colangelo: So what we've been doing lately, we've been keeping track, and I'm throw these on the screen and try to explain these for the listeners out there. But this is our manufacturer tracker that we've been kinda playing with. And kinda wanted to touch on some highlights. Currently the driver manufacturers are a little bit split. TailorMade's ahead in most of these categories, but they're in the lead with three. Callaway Ping Titleist are out too, and then there's a Shrick Son win in there as well. And then the very interesting one, in the Fairway Wood department, it is nine to one tailor-made to Titleist, which is very interesting. I
Matthew Zampello: yeah, it's mostly either, well actually QI 35 is three, QI 10 is two. And then QI 40 has two as well. yeah, QI, anything from Taylor made from the fairway wood department is gonna be pretty good.
Dominic Colangelo: Mm-hmm. It's insane. Actually, now that I'm at it, Tailor Mate is leading every category. The biggest discrepancy is Fairway Woods. So irons are at three. ⁓ Bridgestone is the next at two. Wedges are tied with Tidal. It's at four and four. ⁓ Yep. And then for putters, the talk of the town these days is that spider.
Matthew Zampello: Yeah, which makes sense. Spider Dominance, man. It seems to make every putter a somewhat good putter. Like even if you're a bad putter, think it figures out how, mean, Brant Snedeker was using it this week and killing it, so.
Dominic Colangelo: Is there any technology in the Spyder that stands out to you?
Matthew Zampello: It just hasn't high MOI. Kenny will probably know more than me about the tech in it, but.
Kenny Reilly: I still think it's one of the ugliest putters I've ever seen. that's a hot take on me. But ⁓ I think that it probably sits with that short slant depending on what model you're thinking at. But most of the people either got the Rory style with the crank neck or the Schaeffler style with that short slant. It probably looks a little bit ⁓ more traditional, something closer to a blade. But like Matt was saying, just the...
Kevin Spisak: Ha ha.
Kenny Reilly: The high MOI is gonna be an easy, easy put, but you gotta realize that these guys are putting on glass. ⁓ Anything that's gonna start online and roll true, any bit of confidence is gonna help them. ⁓ I don't know, I think that Fitzpatrick's probably, I love that he's just like, nah, I tried it and I'm back to a blade. I think ⁓ more people probably.
Dominic Colangelo: Yeah.
Kenny Reilly: putt, the better defensive putters with a blade rather than a mallet. It's kind of like you've got to hole it or at least hit it just perfect to judge speed. ⁓ I don't know, I never caught onto the phase. I just couldn't look at it personally. But yeah, mean, everybody's using them. A hark back to the fair woods. I think that they've had the best fairway woods for a long time. ⁓ You know, it's a that the faces are great. The manufacturer, how they design them is great. Still don't know why they put carbon faces on their drivers, but that's I'm done. I'm off my soapbox and there you have it.
Dominic Colangelo: We'll save that for another episode.
Kenny Reilly: Yeah, yeah, got a whole lot to unpack, but yeah, yeah.
Kevin Spisak: Yeah.
Dominic Colangelo: I think the next thing to go through is just total wins. So again, the categories are driver, woods, irons, wedges, and putter. And they're all separated by manufacturer. TaylorMade is currently winning at a total club count of 24. And the next highest is Titleist at 10, which is pretty jarring. There is quite a bit of discrepancy there.
Matthew Zampello: They're having a good year, but.
Dominic Colangelo: We'll see if it lasts.
Kevin Spisak: Yeah, we'll see when the big boy tournaments come up who's still riding
Dominic Colangelo: Is there anything else guys? What do think?
Kevin Spisak: No.
Matthew Zampello: That's all I got.
Dominic Colangelo: Beautiful. Well, again, thank you so much, Kenny, for joining. This was so much fun. This is great. ⁓
Kevin Spisak: Yes, thank you, Kenny.
Kenny Reilly: No, hey guys, it's an honor. appreciate you guys very much. know these productions are not so simple. So for you guys to have your prep ready, having ⁓ a segment by segment of this show, ⁓ congratulations. ⁓ You guys are doing a great job and I was very happy to join you guys.
Dominic Colangelo: Thanks, man. Appreciate it. on that note, ⁓ us on our socials, ⁓ Apple, YouTube, Twitter, all the fun stuff, TikTok, at Under the Covers Golf. ⁓ to watch the Children's Texas Houston Open. ⁓ wait to see who wins and ⁓ of see what's under the covers next week. ⁓
Matthew Zampello: Shout out to Tome and Fertitta for keeping the Houston Open alive.